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Nov 26, 2015

Fomba fiasan'ny sekta

Notsongoina avy tatsy amin'ny Forum Fivavahana, Finoana ao @ Serasera


rhaj0 - 26/11/2015 12:05
Raha tsy diso ny fitadidiko, dia nisy check-list (nataon'i Hery??) nandalo teto hoe, ahoana no ahalalana fa sekta io misy anao io..

Fa ni-google aho, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+does+religious+sect+work
fa dia tena mila iverenana indray ny lisitra.. ampiana ny lazain'ireto ohatra..

Tena mba hitako mba mety hanampy ny namana toa an-dry RBNIR na ry Yahl sy ny maro tsy tambo isaina eto ireo.. satria anie dia mety ho potika mihintsy ny fiainan-dreo eee... isika eto izany ve dia hijery fotsiny?

http://www.csj.org/infoserv_cult101/checklis.htmThe group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader and (whether he is alive or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law.
? Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.
? Mind-altering practices (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, and debilitating work routines) are used in excess and serve to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s).
? The leadership dictates, sometimes in great detail, how members should think, act, and feel (for example, members must get permission to date, change jobs, marry—or leaders prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, whether or not to have children, how to discipline children, and so forth).
? The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s) and members (for example, the leader is considered the Messiah, a special being, an avatar—or the group and/or the leader is on a special mission to save humanity).
? The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conflict with the wider society.
? The leader is not accountable to any authorities (unlike, for example, teachers, military commanders or ministers, priests, monks, and rabbis of mainstream religious denominations).
? The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify whatever means it deems necessary. This may result in members' participating in behaviors or activities they would have considered reprehensible or unethical before joining the group (for example, lying to family or friends, or collecting money for bogus charities).
? The leadership induces feelings of shame and/or guilt iin order to influence and/or control members. Often, this is done through peer pressure and subtle forms of persuasion.
? Subservience to the leader or group requires members to cut ties with family and friends, and radically alter the personal goals and activities they had before joining the group.
? The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members.
? The group is preoccupied with making money.
? Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group and group-related activities.
? Members are encouraged or required to live and/or socialize only with other group members.
? The most loyal members (the “true believers”) feel there can be no life outside the context of the group. They believe there is no other way to be, and often fear reprisals to themselves or others if they leave (or even consider leaving) the group.



http://www.letusreason.org/cults.htmAre you told not to question what is being taught because the leaders are honest and want the best for you so you must trust them. Has someone replaced your own choices in life.
Are you told not to ask questions why anyone left, your to accept the answers the leaders give you such as: they fell into sin, they didn’t receive correction, they weren’t open or they had a bad heart and didn’t want to be disciples
Are you told that you must be with their certain church or group to be saved and not by Jesus Christ.
If you want to leave are you being told their is no other church that practices truth, you will go to hell.
Are you made to feel your failures, that your performance is not up to par for the bibles standard
Are you being rebuked for things such as the way you say hello or how you respond to being asked to do something for a leader or disciple. Do they tell you its a matter of the heart how one complies.
Are they putting down other church’s and building themselves up. Do they sometimes use people as examples of what you are to be doing and others on what you are not to be doing.
Do they bring attention to what they do, and ignoring others that may be doing the same things outside their church.
Do they put down others to make themselves look better, calling themselves righteous and others unrighteous
Do they call those who leave fall away’s and enemies, dogs returning to their own vomit, using the examples of Korah or Judas.
Do they stop you from reading anything negative about themselves calling it spiritual pornography or recommend you not to read it for your own spiritual protection.
Do they recommend for you to be around their people expecting you to be at all the group activities. If not you're spirituality and dedication are questioned.
Do they defend all that they do even though it can be harmful or wrong.
Do they operate by humility or are they arrogant and demand you to obey if you are considering otherwise. Or is it done subtly by manipulating you into obeying by statements such as, real Christians obey their leaders or if you were following Jesus you would see what I’m saying is right. true disciples did not question Jesus.

rhaj0 - 07/12/2015 11:28

Strong3inona moa no idiran'ny filazantsara amin'ireo

Ny filazantsara no "inspirasiO" re ry Strong3 aaaa... ny olombe tantarain'ny Babiboly ao, ny fombafomba fi-traiter-na ny olona ao, ... tao daholo no nakan'ireo sekta an'ireo hevitra ireo... ntsss...

eto ianao Strong3 vao mody ganga eo, nefa mino aho fa na ianao azany ni-experimenter an'ireo, na mba nanao (nanambaka) koa, na nasiana (voambaka) tao koa...

rhaj0 - 17/09/2015 12:38
Raha ny fahatakarako azy...

- Ny Fiangonana no organisation izay "metimety" (acceptable) @ fiaraha-monina, satria ny F, na dia "partisan", izany hoe, mihilana be @ "Finoany", na hoe @ "saim-pantany" azany izy, dia mba manaja, plus ou moins, ny lalAna velon'ny fiaraha-monina ihany.

- Ny Sekta indray dia ilay "nanohitra" ny Fiangonana. Ny (isan'ny) anoheran'ny Sekta ny F dia io "compromis", na fileferan'ny F @ principe rigide-be-n'ny FInoana, ka mampatonga ny F ho mba "metimety" (acceptable) @ fiaraha-monina.

Raha atambatra izany, ny Sekta dia sady manohitra ny Fiangonana, no koa manohitra ny fiaraha-monina, @ izy Sekta miziriziry be @ principe rigide-be-n'ny Finoany ao.


Dia ny fisehon'ny Sekta moa
- dia ao ireo "agressive", ka manitrikitrika ny olona ao @ Finoan'ny "olona be compromis @ Finoana" ao
- dia ao ireo "passive", izay mihidy aman-trano ao...



Fa ilay fiseho ivelan'ny "Sekta" eo ihany, fa ny fototra lalina ao @ fisainany, dia ilay "esprit sectaire"... hozy Ralarosy izay hoe:
Se dit de quelqu'un qui, par intolérance ou étroitesse d'esprit, se refuse à admettre les opinions différentes de celles qu'il professe.

rhaj0 - 18/09/2015 10:13

hery sy bor2lais" Fibaikoana manontolo ny mahaolona ilay mpikambana (tsy tompon'ny tenany intsony fa manao izay lazain'ny Gourou... matahotra izay lazainy, manaraka am-bokony)"

Raha ny fijeriko avy aty ivelany k'lou, dia ianareo samy "mino" ao k'lou dia tena raha mifampitsaratsara ka dia dada ka dadany eeeee... i ranona "robot"... zahay no "tena izy"... izaroa "mpanara-drenirano".. izatsy "tsy katolika".. iretsy "tsy miditra am-piangonana"...

Ka hono ho'a ry Bor2lais, ireo "Katolika hendry tsara" (toa an'i Hery, na ianao koa) ve tsy mba "manao izay lazain'ny Papa/Mopera/teolojiana... matahotra izay lazainy, manaraka am-bokony" ?

rhaj0 - 17/09/2015 14:42
Sectes à Madagascar: 260 sectes enregistrées.
Ankoatry ny Mormons, izay sekta raha araky Google, dia izao hono ... MRE (Messager Evangélique du Réveil), Eglise Evangélique Shine, Apokalipsy, Vahao ny oloko, sont les sectes les plus connues à l’heure actuelle.

Samy "@ anaran'i Andriamanitra" daholo ireo @ izany an... 

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